Un entretien sacrément décapant d'une trentaine de minutes sur l'histoire de la Turquie au tournant du XXe siècle et sur Israël en 1947 et aujourd'hui : Historian Benny Morris on the Forgotten 19th-Century Genocide of Turkey’s Christians [Quillette, December 8, 2020]
Pour aller plus loin :
The Thirty-Year Genocide - Turkey’s Destruction of Its Christian Minorities, 1894–1924 Benny Morris & Dror Ze'evi.
Un article détaillé du New York Times qui étoffe le contexte historique et cherche à nuancer la thèse du livre : Turkey’s Killing Fields April 23, 2019
L'entretien touche également à la comparaison historique Turquie & minorités vs Israël & Palestiniens et Arabes. Clarté de la démonstration. Jonathan Kay oriente ensuite la discussion sur la difficulté de faire des recherches sur le sujet et sur les raisons qui font que tel génocide reste dans les mémoires et d'autres non (B. Morris, parle du Burundi et de la Russie). Éclairant. Benny Morris fait enfin une description sans concession de la société israélienne et de la politique face à la contagion covid.Jonathan Kay speaks to famed Middle Eastern historian Benny Morris, whose latest book explores the ethnic cleansing of Turkey during the last decades of the Ottoman Empire
Pour aller plus loin :
The Thirty-Year Genocide - Turkey’s Destruction of Its Christian Minorities, 1894–1924 Benny Morris & Dror Ze'evi.
Un article détaillé du New York Times qui étoffe le contexte historique et cherche à nuancer la thèse du livre : Turkey’s Killing Fields April 23, 2019
(...) The book examines three episodes: first, the massacre of perhaps 200,000 Ottoman Armenians that took place between 1894 and 1896; then the much larger deportation and slaughter of Armenians that began in 1915 and has been widely recognized as genocide; and third, the destruction or deportation of the remaining Christians (mostly Greeks) during and after the conflict of 1919-22, which Turks call their War of Independence. The fate of Assyrian Christians, of whom 250,000 or more may have perished, is also examined, in less detail.
The authors are distinguished Israeli historians. Benny Morris, a chronicler of the fighting that attended Israel’s birth, has written bluntly about incidents in which Arabs were killed or expelled. He also argues (contentiously) that it would have been better if the result had been total separation between Jew and Arab. His co-author, Dror Ze’evi, is a fellow professor at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev.
(...) Between 1894 and 1924, they write, between 1.5 million and 2.5 million Ottoman Christians perished; greater accuracy is impossible. Whatever the shifts in regime, all these killings were instigated by Muslim Turks who drew in other Muslims and invoked Islamic solidarity. As a result the Christian share of Anatolia’s population fell from 20 percent to 2 percent.
The reader is left wondering what the authors ultimately feel about the treatment of civilians in situations of total war. Nothing in the United Nations conventions implies that military expediency can justify the removal, whether by ethnic cleansing, killing or both, of populations whose presence is inconvenient. But by weighing up arguments for and against certain acts of expulsion, Morris and Ze’evi seem at times to be taking a less purist view.